Kevin Hillstrom: MineThatData
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August 30, 2026
Setting a Standard
August 27, 2026
Loyalty: Red Lobster Nation
We talked about loyalty programs this week. I talked about the feebleness of points and percentages off. Here's Red Lobster Nation.
Earn points, get dollars off your meal.
A question.
Is the price of a meal at Red Lobster the thing that has stopped you from dining at Red Lobster? Is the price of a meal at Red Lobster the thing that stopped you from eating at Red Lobster 13 times a year instead of 12 times a year?
A loyalty program should be designed to solve a problem. What is the core problem that Red Lobster has?
- Is it that restaurants need to be renovated? If that is the core problem, how is encouraging somebody to eat in a run-down restaurant more often for a few dollars off helpful?
- Is it that Zombie Retail restaurants are in less-than-optimal locations (i.e. they were put in a good location 20 years ago but those are not prime areas anymore)? A loyalty program won't solve this problem.
- Is it that the food is too expensive? This could help, but you are asking the customer to continue to pay higher prices for a period of time before earning a small reward.
- Is it that the service is poor? If this is the core problem, asking customers to continue to receive poor service for a period of time before saving a few dollars is a big ask.
- Is it that Marketing is out of ideas? If this is the core problem, this could be a solution.
- Is a Management Consultant involved? If this is the core problem, we all know the appropriate course of action.
August 26, 2026
The Two Best Ways To Grow Your Loyal Customer Base
I've run the numbers more times than I care to mention. Tables, queries, simulations, you name it. All methods tell the same story.
The best loyalty programs have MANY customers, not few customers. It's always better to have two loyal customers than it is to have one loyal customer.
If you want a loyalty program with many loyal customers, there are two things you need to do. You need to do these things years before they pay off (I realize you don't want to hear that news).
- You must acquire high-quality new customers. S-Tier or A-Tier new customers. It's mandatory. That new customer you paid Facebook for that bought one lousy item at $29.99? Garbage. Facebook makes money, you don't.
- You must convert as many first-time buyers to a second purchase within three months of a first order. If you don't get them early, the probability of the customer becoming loyal greatly diminishes.
- They don't say "no" to the garbage name acquired via Facebook, but they work overtime to acquire the first-time buyer who purchases three items on a first order in two different merchandise categories. Whether algorithmically or (often) via their own programs, they generate attention/awareness that leads to new customers that are S-Tier or A-Tier.
- They have well-developed Welcome Programs that convert customers to a second purchase quickly. This results in a significant increase in loyal buyers 18-36 months later. The Loyalty Professional is dependent upon a Smart Marketer.
August 25, 2026
The Problem With Loyalty Programs
Three problems with loyalty programs:
- Wrong Incentives. Points and Discounts. Is that what the customer truly "wants"?
- Wrong Customers. The wrong customers are selected to be included ... sometimes it is almost every customer that is included. That's not a loyalty program, it's not special if everybody is included.
- Wrong Outcome. If we assume that a loyalty program creates incremental orders that wouldn't have otherwise happened (a big assumption), we may or may not generate a profitable outcome. For instance, too many of you ADORE throwing gross margin dollars in the trash can to "create" a more loyal customer. Why are you giving everybody an additional 20% off? Would they have purchased without the discount? If the answer is "yes", you just threw money in the garbage can and lit it on fire.
- The incremental increase of 5% was wildly unprofitable. The company simply burned money.
- Nobody appreciated the answer. I wasn't invited back to continue analyzing the issue.
August 24, 2026
Define a "Loyal" Customer Please
When I describe what I define as a "loyal" customer, I see sour faces. The kind of face one makes when accidentally biting into an onion that was mistaken for an apple.
My definition (get ready to make the face):
- A customer is "loyal" when the customer has a 60% or greater chance of purchasing again in the next year.
- Purchased 4 times in the past four years, AOV = $100.
- Purchased 2 times in the past four years, AOV = $200.
- Purchased 3 times in the past four years, multi-category buyer, purchases full priced merchandise, uses proprietary credit.
August 23, 2026
Loyal Customers
This is what happens if you don't give AI a copy of what our friend, The Lemonhead, looks like. It leverages creative expression to do whatever the heck it wants.
I mean, technically that is a lemonhead ...
I have no idea why there is an airplane in the image.
Anyway, this week we'll talk a bit about loyal customers. There is a secret to developing a loyal customer base, and the secret is likely to annoy you, because it has little to do with anything you've been taught.
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