tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post2720345781629685389..comments2023-10-18T08:32:17.510-07:00Comments on Kevin Hillstrom: MineThatData: Twitter Is A Lot LIke Digging Through A Restaurant Dumpster For A Fresh DonutUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-35517652982712024252013-01-03T03:31:06.637-08:002013-01-03T03:31:06.637-08:00You have made your content quit clear. There’s no ...You have made your content quit clear. There’s no way to mistake your points of interest. I enjoyed this writing very much and I agree with your ideas. Thank you.<br /><a href="http://www.theseoportal.com/smo-services.html" rel="nofollow">Social Media Optimization</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09011111972953808365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-11255443212755178332009-03-09T14:08:00.000-07:002009-03-09T14:08:00.000-07:00Twitter is an early iteration of a new media techn...Twitter is an early iteration of a new media technology, which are often awkward and clumsy. I think micro blogging is here to stay.<BR/><BR/>Heh, I could have tweeted that...Sable Twilighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16976386211048292057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-55584468302444546282009-02-17T21:08:00.000-08:002009-02-17T21:08:00.000-08:00Chris G --- thanks for the message.Midhael --- yes...Chris G --- thanks for the message.<BR/><BR/>Midhael --- yes, there is value to be had. And the "value" is different for everybody. Just too much overhyping the tool.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, I tend to agree, the value is in the community, and the community is different for every person.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, there does seem to be a system of building followers, a best practice if you will.<BR/><BR/>Eric, I visited your Twitter page. Good luck with your support of the tool, it is clear you are a passionate user, and were probably offended by my comments. I am sorry for that. My goal was to use satire to get us to think, we're just not thinking often enough in marketing.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Aaron, your comments were constructive, thank you for the well thought out response. <BR/><BR/>Andreas.wpv, you can use the quote, it's the actual math, and is actually generous because Dell generated their volume over 18 months. I do think there is research benefit in the tool, but it does take a little effort.MineThatDatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014200122021988374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-45050510025309678872009-02-17T20:19:00.000-08:002009-02-17T20:19:00.000-08:00Love it!Sure, everyone who is selling Twitter to c...Love it!<BR/><BR/>Sure, everyone who is selling Twitter to customers right now has to contradict, and as some are running out of ideas Twitter has many supporters. <BR/><BR/>May I quote your Dell example, this is just awesome. (Don't tell my 'social' colleague though, he's not going to like it.) In general this cost / benefit perspective is not very much developed in some companies, right?<BR/><BR/>One addition to your list><BR/>Following twitter is finding information by sheer luck and incident (or accident). Using it as a research tool, sure, that is fine, but nothing special, right? <BR/><BR/>It is great for targeting marketers, though!-)andreas.wpvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13046870049291431054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-8189477502888668212009-02-17T10:35:00.000-08:002009-02-17T10:35:00.000-08:00Mr. Hillstrom,From one perspective (your's and man...Mr. Hillstrom,<BR/><BR/>From one perspective (your's and many others'), of course Twitter is just the "flavor of the month" which can be confusing, annoying, time-wasting and just plain useless.<BR/><BR/>But there's something to be said for following trends - including that right now Twitter is an EXCELLENT place to research, follow and yes - even create - trends.<BR/><BR/>Using the desktop application Tweetdeck ( http://www.Tweetdeck.com ) I set up columns dedicated to keyword searches. And just like a keyword search on Google or any other search engine will not always return 100% desirable or 100% relevant data, searching through a pre-filtered list of Tweets - which can even be narrowed down by yet another level of search in the Tweetdeck column using Tweetdeck's column search feature - makes finding the meaningful ones very easy.<BR/><BR/>Twitter is just a tool, like any other tool. If you don't have a purpose for carrying around a hammer, don't waste your time carrying around a hammer. If you don't have a purpose for using Twitter - and develop a strategy for how you will use it to build and serve a community of followers - then (I say) don't bother wasting time using Twitter.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, there will always be people whose "purpose" is to reach out in their loneliness to others, or blow their egotistical horns - and those people will flock to Twitter, Facebook, and wherever else they think they can be "heard" or find new "friends."<BR/><BR/>But if your desire is to research, follow or create trends; keep in touch in a meaningful way with friends and colleagues; and expand your network so you are better able to serve more people, then Twitter allows you to do these things - and more - with a great deal of ease.<BR/><BR/>Without a conscious purpose and a specific strategy for tapping into the immense value of Twitter, the signal-to-noise ratio and the mindless chatter that DEFINITELY exists on Twitter will make it seem worthless - or at least "a lot like digging through a restaurant dumpster for a fresh donut."<BR/><BR/>Know your purpose for using Twitter, whether that's just to meet and keep in touch with friends, or use Twitter as the invaluable marketing vehicle it is when used properly. Remember that Twitter is simply a tool for creating and nurturing relationships, and dedicate yourself to creating and nurturing HIGH-QUALITY, highly valued relationships. Develop a strategy designed to specifically fulfill your purpose for using Twitter, and you'll gain immense value, in both imagined and unimagined ways.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for providing a forum for this invaluable discussion. Many people feel as you do, and have similar experiences. I hope that my comment provides yet another perspective of use to some of your readers.<BR/><BR/>Jay Aaron<BR/>Strategic Visionary / Visionary Strategist<BR/>http://JayAaron.com<BR/>Founder of http://www.Twitternars.com<BR/>Follow me on Twitter: http://Twitter.com/newthoughtsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-70283444276477030002009-02-17T10:26:00.000-08:002009-02-17T10:26:00.000-08:00Of course I saw the link to here on Twitter. ;)It'...Of course I saw the link to here on Twitter. ;)<BR/><BR/>It's difficult, and probably not worth the time, to take your points seriously when they're swimming in multiple colors, all caps, underlines, and good grief, multiple colors--sometimes all at once. <BR/><BR/>If your text looks like it was made by a clown in 1986, so do you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-50749444410413204252009-02-17T09:57:00.000-08:002009-02-17T09:57:00.000-08:00Kevin as always you pretty much nailed it. I am re...Kevin as always you pretty much nailed it. I am really sick of all the games people play on Twitter to gain attention and build followers. I would add on the plus side there have been some helpful micro-community chats using hash tags.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-77305359751501683362009-02-17T09:02:00.000-08:002009-02-17T09:02:00.000-08:00Twitter's value is its community; it's not groundb...Twitter's value is its community; it's not groundbreaking technology. Twitter's community of trust will weaken as it expands, and its users will move elsewhere as has happened with Craigslist and eBay.<BR/><BR/>Dell has other problems than microchannel profitability: it floods the market with so many offers from so many channels that I delayed my purchase of a desktop for six months while I waited for a better offer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-71439327908193787172009-02-17T07:52:00.000-08:002009-02-17T07:52:00.000-08:00Ha. I love it. As someone who uses Twitter every d...Ha. I love it. As someone who uses Twitter every day, I do believe it has value, but the snake oil and magic carpets tend to get a little old. That being said, Twitter does have its uses. Surprisingly, people on Twitter talk about brands; what they like and don't like about them. And while it doesn't replace another marketing strategy it has been good to talk to those customers through twitter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-31200947302123439152009-02-17T06:55:00.000-08:002009-02-17T06:55:00.000-08:00Cutting to the chase, as usual, Mr. Hillstrom! Th...Cutting to the chase, as usual, Mr. Hillstrom! The Dell calculation is priceless, and the comment about 2005 2008 2010. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32202893.post-45991996476323874362009-02-16T23:04:00.000-08:002009-02-16T23:04:00.000-08:00Then build a filter system. Stocktwits.com is a f...Then build a filter system. Stocktwits.com is a financial comment filter for Twitter and it works. I think we will see more apps like this going forward.DThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734898506172133184noreply@blogger.com